Ken Gargett Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 been doing quite a bit of work on bourbons of late so very interesting to see what made this list. and what didn't. i do love the blantons. and the jeffersons at sea. prices american. (illustration: Elizabeth Reyes) You know who knows best which bottles to buy? The people who pour and sell drinks—that’s who. We asked dozens of top bartending and spirits industry professionals to tell us which bottles they love and why. Heads up: The numerical order below is not organized by importance or quality; it’s an alphabetical list, not a ranking. Prices are averages and can vary from state to state. 1: ANGEL’S ENVY ($60) “It has one of the smoothest yet complex flavor notes for a bourbon—classic corn flavor with baking spices and wood. The kicker is that there's a tropical note of bananas, sweet pineapple and mango flavors that really creates a truly interesting experience.”—Juyoung Kang, lead bartender at Las Vegas' Dorsey BUY ANGEL’S ENVY ONLINE 2: BARRELL BATCH 002 ($145) “This is a uniquely fragrant sherry-finished bourbon.”—David Y. Dong, bartender at New York City's North End Grill BUY BARRELL BATCH 002 ONLINE 3: BELLE MEADE MADEIRA CASK ($70) “Belle Meade is a bourbon made in Tennessee that’s just simply perfect. It’s smooth sipping with all the right notes of sweet, spice and everything nice. But this new experiment of casks is coloring outside the box. There’s a sherry, cognac and now this Madeira cask. And this Madeira cask just blew my taste buds. It’s just heaven.”—Kang BUY BELLE MEADE MADEIRA CASK ONLINE 4: BLANTON'S ($59) “It’s a single-barrel bourbon (that claims to be the first). Besides the bourbon being very good for the price, this is an awesome gift. The bottle is beautiful, and the corks are meant to be collected so you can use it as repeat gift.”—Tomas van den Boomgaard, beverage manager at The Langham, Chicago BUY BLANTON'S ONLINE 5: BOOKER’S ($72) “It is a intense cask-strength, non-chill-filtered balance of leather and oak and opens up with dark cherry.”—Karen Fu, former bar director at New York City's Donna BUY BOOKER’S ONLINE 6: ELIJAH CRAIG 18 YEAR ($325) “It has classic oak with a balance of orchard fruits and soft caramel.”—Fu BUY ELIJAH CRAIG 18 YEAR OLD ONLINE 7: ELMER T. LEE ($130) “Year in and year out, it’s one of the most satisfying, affordable bourbons you can find. You can tell how beloved Elmer was, because this bottle has all of the quality of much more expensive bourbons at a fraction of the cost.”—Neal Bodenheimer, owner and bartender at New Orleans' Cane & Table and Cure BUY ELMER T. LEE ONLINE 8: GEORGE T. STAGG ($800) “It’s hearty, uncut and unfiltered, with rye spice, clove and smoke.”—Fu BUY GEORGE T. STAGG ONLINE 9: I.W. HARPER 15 YEAR ($90) “Ridiculously smooth, this bottle is the ultimate crowd pleaser for bourbon drinkers of all stripes—light and fruity but exceedingly flavorful.”—Bodenheimer BUY I.W. HARPER 15 YEAR ONLINE 10: JEFFERSON'S OCEAN ($80) “This whiskey has a great flavor that pairs well with a fun story of its aging process, where it spends its life in a barrel at sea with the natural agitation of the waves instead of turning barrels.”—Gil Izaguirre, beverage director at Chicago's Honey's BUY JEFFERSON'S OCEAN ONLINE 11: JIM BEAM DISTILLER’S MASTERPIECE ($200) “Everyone is so quick to dismiss a product with ‘Jim Beam’ on the label. This is a limited-production 12-year-old bourbon finished in PX sherry casks that will change your mind about that. It’s an excellent after-dinner sipper.”—Michael Lazar, whiskey concierge and lead bartender at San Francisco's Hard Water BUY JIM BEAM DISTILLER’S MASTERPIECE ONLINE 12: NOAH’S MILL ($67) “It’s actually a pretty affordable, smooth bourbon, especially when it’s set at around 114 proof. It has nutty core fruit notes from scent to taste—a high-proof bourbon that’s balanced, smooth and at the right price tag.”—Kang BUY NOAH’S MILL ONLINE 13: ORPHAN BARREL BARTERHOUSE 20 YEAR ($120) “I'm not a huge fan of the Orphan Barrel series, but this is my favorite. Creamy orange and peach are nice backbones to classic bourbon notes.”—H. Joseph Ehrmann, owner of San Francisco's Elixir BUY ORPHAN BARREL BARTERHOUSE 20 YEAR ONLINE 14: ORPHAN BARREL FORGED OAK 15 YEAR ($130) “With this age statement comes long notes of cocoa backed with notes of maple sweetness and cedar wood.”—Izaguirre BUY ORPHAN BARREL FORGED OAK 15 YEAR ONLINE 15: ORPHAN BARREL RHETORIC 21 YEAR ($157) “It’s a unique bourbon with tropical fruit notes and hints of vanilla with a subtle spice. This is a great gift for a high price but worth it compared to the overpriced Pappy Van Winkles out there.”—Van den Boomgaard BUY ORPHAN BARREL RHETORIC 21 YEAR ONLINE 16: RABBIT HOLE FINISHED IN PX SHERRY CASKS ($63) “With a long sweet finish of golden raisin and sweet roasted nuts, it has great body to stand up to classic applications like an Old Fashioned or a Hot Toddy.”—Izaguirre BUY RABBIT HOLE FINISHED IN PX SHERRY CASKS ONLINE 17: WIDOW JANE 10 YEAR ($72) “Known for its choice of where the water comes from, it turns making bourbon the right way into a true work of art. What’s also surprising is that it’s from New York. It’s just a great, balanced and smooth bourbon, all thanks to its limestone mineral water.”—Kang BUY WIDOW JANE 10 YEAR ONLINE 18: WILD TURKEY MASTER'S KEEP 17 YEAR ($140) “I'm not a big fan of old bourbon, but when it's done right, it’s delicious. This is one I grab for.”—Ehrmann BUY WILD TURKEY MASTER'S KEEP 17 YEAR ONLINE 19: WILLETT POT STILL RESERVE ($60) “It’s a beautiful bourbon from one of my favorite distilleries and in a beautiful still-shaped bottle to boot.”—Jamie Boudreau, owner and bartender at Seattle's Canon BUY WILLETT POT STILL RESERVE ONLINE 20: W.L. WELLER 12 YEAR ($170) “W.L. Weller 12-year-old is the Pappy that bourbon enthusiasts are looking for. With its rich plum and caramel notes, this wheated bourbon is the most bang for your buck since dynamite.”—Max Green, senior bartender at New York City's Amor y Amargo
Duxnutz Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 Wish the hipsters would back off Weller 12. Darn near hyped into non existence. Belle Meade is solid and a staple in my cabinet. Agree with the Barrel bottlings, always pretty good if not overpriced. 1
Ken Gargett Posted August 8, 2018 Author Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 10:36 AM, Duxnutz said: Wish the hipsters would back off Weller 12. Darn near hyped into non existence. Belle Meade is solid and a staple in my cabinet. Agree with the Barrel bottlings, always pretty good if not overpriced. Expand i do hear so many good things about the weller 12 and the antique.
Duxnutz Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 10:41 AM, Ken Gargett said: i do hear so many good things about the weller 12 and the antique. Expand Back a few years ago I did the famed 60:40 marriage of Antique and Weller 12 as my house bourbon I offered guests. Truly great. I actually prefer the Antique 107 and am drinking it as I type this. Weller is sent to japan, amazed it’s not imported into Oz directly.
Ken Gargett Posted August 8, 2018 Author Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 10:48 AM, Duxnutz said: Back a few years ago I did the famed 60:40 marriage of Antique and Weller 12 as my house bourbon I offered guests. Truly great. I actually prefer the Antique 107 and am drinking it as I type this. Weller is sent to japan, amazed it’s not imported into Oz directly. Expand weller is imported but the best deal is $260. a bottle. not an every day drink!
prodigy Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 The stagg, Elmer t Lee, and Weller 12 are not priced even close to actual price, but they are all very good and impossible to find. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk 1
prodigy Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 12:33 PM, JackofSpeed said: Just picked this up at retail for $35. The stuff never hits the shelf, helps to be friendly with sales guysI hate you lol. I've never seen it, and when I ask for it, I get laughed at. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk
prodigy Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 2:02 PM, backbone said: Now I have to find some Weller.... Thanks Ken.You won't find any, and if you do, it will 5x more expensive (or more) than the shelf price. Good luck though! I've been looking for 2 years and refuse to pay over $100 for a $35 bottle. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk 1
backbone Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 I'm in Florida, so I wont likely see it anytime soon. When I was in Texas in the late 90's it was everywhere. Does anyone know of a trusted online vendor?
Doctorossi Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 9:59 AM, Ken Gargett said: been doing quite a bit of work on bourbons of late Expand "Work"... so that's what you call it. 1
tksamtec Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 Elmer T Lee is a personal favorite of mine, but just like Weller 12, its become scarce and never hits the shelves. It used to be the best bourbon you could get for under $35, and was always available, and consistently superb. Now its released a couple times per year, and when it hits stores (unannounced), the bourbon hipsters and ETL fans buy it by the case, leaving me none. 1
Cayman17 Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 Most popular bourbons never make it to Pennsylvania thanks to our state-run liquor stores. If they can’t buy in bulk, we likely never see it. So forget Blanton’s, Stagg, Elmer T. Lee. Is Widow Jane or Booker’s worth trying for $75ish or are they not worth that much?
rguinn Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 $170 for the W12???? It’s good but not that good... Outside of the IW Harper I’d agree with most of these being great bourbons. The Harper was well overpriced to me for a watered down and not very complex 15 yo whiskey. 1
rguinn Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 3:49 PM, Cayman17 said: Most popular bourbons never make it to Pennsylvania thanks to our state-run liquor stores. If they can’t buy in bulk, we likely never see it. So forget Blanton’s, Stagg, Elmer T. Lee. Is Widow Jane or Booker’s worth trying for $75ish or are they not worth that much? Expand Bookers is very high proof, but well worth trying. They had a price increase last yr to compete with similar products like Stagg Jr and EC barrel proof. Ive had a hard time wanting to spend $75+ on it but delicious.
Ken Gargett Posted August 8, 2018 Author Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 2:17 PM, Doctorossi said: "Work"... so that's what you call it. Expand nothing wrong with enjoying your work. 1
Doctorossi Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 3:49 PM, Cayman17 said: Is Widow Jane or Booker’s worth trying for $75ish or are they not worth that much? Expand I can't speak to Widow Jane, but Booker's is my favorite bourbon and well worth $75 for the standard bottling, IMO.
Ken Gargett Posted August 8, 2018 Author Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 2:48 PM, tksamtec said: Elmer T Lee is a personal favorite of mine, but just like Weller 12, its become scarce and never hits the shelves. It used to be the best bourbon you could get for under $35, and was always available, and consistently superb. Now its released a couple times per year, and when it hits stores (unannounced), the bourbon hipsters and ETL fans buy it by the case, leaving me none. Expand the elmer T Lee is $95 here - going by our major retailer which does do good pricing usually - so a bit over a third of the price of a weller.
HDGSN Posted August 8, 2018 Posted August 8, 2018 Prices just 5 years ago or so: George T. Stagg - $89 (technically still is, but stores that sell at MSRP are rare) Weller 12 - $24 Old Weller Antique 107 - $16 Elmer T. Lee - $33 Blanton's - $40 Nowadays, the true high roller bourbons are old Stitzel Weller, National Distillers, and Kentucky Bourbon Distillers releases. There were barrels of Willett Family Estate released 7-10 years ago that sat on the shelf at $80 that now fetch $2500. 1
Cigarsandmalts Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 GTS at $800/bottle ??! I’ve got a few I’d love to unload at that price lol. Noah’s Mill is the dark horse on that list. One of my fav’s and a bargain consider the pricing. 1
prodigy Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 On 8/9/2018 at 12:36 AM, Cigarsandmalts said: GTS at $800/bottle ! I’ve got a few I’d love to unload at that price lol. Noah’s Mill is the dark horse on that list. One of my fav’s and a bargain consider the pricing. Right? I sold 2 recently and tripled my money. Still a fraction of $800. Whoever paid that price should take the seller to court for robbery!Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk
HDGSN Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 On 8/9/2018 at 12:42 AM, prodigy said: Right? I sold 2 recently and tripled my money. Still a fraction of $800. Whoever paid that price should take the seller to court for robbery! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Expand The early releases cost that much now on secondary. Some recent ones like 2014 are about $600.
Ken Gargett Posted August 9, 2018 Author Posted August 9, 2018 On 8/9/2018 at 12:36 AM, Cigarsandmalts said: GTS at $800/bottle ??! I’ve got a few I’d love to unload at that price lol. Noah’s Mill is the dark horse on that list. One of my fav’s and a bargain consider the pricing. Expand quoted at $460 a bottle here. not often cheaper out here.
NitrousPurger Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 Surprised this isnt on the list. Whiskey Advocate’s #1 whiskey of 2017. Wife bought the last one on shelf without knowing what it was. Had to go back and order a second bottle. So smooth for how strong it is 3
CaskStrength Posted August 9, 2018 Posted August 9, 2018 Happy to see the Jefferson's Ocean get some respect. I thought it would be a gimmick, but there's a lot of maritime notes I only get with Islays and other island scotches. I hope it comes back here soon as it's one I keep reaching for. I still need to grab a bottle of Bookers to round out my collection. 1
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